Comments on: Programmers are lazy capricious pseudo-intellectuals. Really?

By: lokesh sharma

lokesh sharma — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:16:41 +0000

I am agree with Andriy Solovey 50% and not agree with Andriy Solovey 50%.
It is right that some programmers are house painters.
but 50% programmers user their own mind to implement the software and run it successfully.they gives suggestion to customer and even Analyst to improve software quality. As a web developer i can say that programmers can be a good analyst.

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By: Syam Sathyan

Syam Sathyan — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:59:34 +0000

I do agree to the fact that many programmers are house painters. But there are still people(progarammers) who can think out of the box and implement anything under the sun.

But I cannot agree to Tim Bryce’s statement that “IQ is less for a programmer.
I would rather say that a Programmers IQ is rather higher in terms of technology.

As as Senior Programmer i would demand absolute freedom from unethical management morons, who wants a database to be implemented in ten days using the latest language!!!!!.

Programeers are the only people who use the most unfriendly OS on earth for accomplishing their tasks.

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By: Dr Bob

Dr Bob — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:16:40 +0000

“I don’t agree. Communicating with customers is a time consuming and inefficient process, simply because most customers don’t have a clue what they want, or want something completely ridiculous. If you have a skilled programmer, it is a waste of their time to work with the customer.”

I don’t need to actually talk to the customer. I can discern their requirements from my little cubicle, from whence I dispense my wisdom using quotes from Firefly and The Simpsons.

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By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:08:14 +0000

Given the huge number of programmers that have successfully started their own business the past few decades, I would think this “programmers need to understand business” should be over by now.

In every team I worked with the past ten years, the problem was entirely the other way around: programmers understood the business requirements perfectly well, management however was unable to relate business requirements to proposed technological solutions and required IT-resources. In the information-age, it’s now up to the management to start crossing that bridge. The programmers are already well past half way.

By: chuck

chuck — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:06:32 +0000

I don’t agree with Andriy and Asd above, but I think their mistake may be in assuming that you mean that programmers should take over all the client communication and requirements development. In my opinion, the results of planning how to bridge business needs and technology are just equally bad if handled only by people versed in technology, or only by people versed in business. There needs to be some crossover and/or collaboration.

Programmers do need to be involved in communicating with the client and understanding the business needs — otherwise they make software that doesn’t suit the needs and programmers end up looking bad. In order for that to happen, management needs to stop treating programmer like ugly unwashed freaks that will scare off clients unless they keep us locked in the basement. We need to be given the *opportunity* (permission?) to be involved in that area.

Programmers need to understand business a little more, and business-people need to understand the programming a little more. Having business people hand down specs to programmers that are poorly thought out because they lack a deep enough understanding of the technology isn’t working; neither will having programmers with inadequate understanding of business do the business analysis. Both sides need to be willing to reach across the chasm and meet in the middle somewhere. As Heinlein said, specialization is for insects.

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By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:25:40 +0000

Tim Bryce has already been completely rebuffed on every tech site on the web. We need to stop giving him responses. His writing refers to the small army of IT slaves inside authoritarian companies. These companies are attempting to do what McD’s did to fast food workers: remove all difficulty and risk from the job in order to be able to hire the least skilled employees and “minimize labor costs”. That tact will succeed if we let it. I have peeked inside that dark underbelly. I ran away in disbelief. It is happening. Ignore Tim’s theories and instead reclaim programming for intellectual craftsmen who can see what is possible in a customer’s request.

IT departments can hire one top programmer to replace ten low-skill “programmers”. That lowers labor costs, increases profits, et.